Sept. 2, 2025

S1E4: The Puzzle Piece (feat. John Sawin)

S1E4: The Puzzle Piece (feat. John Sawin)

Welcome to “episode 4” of The Golfing CEO, where host Derek Belch explores how far dreams, drive, and a dose of delusion can take us in the pursuit of the impossible. This week, Derek talks to Senior Vice President of Golf at Pebble Beach, John Sawin. Derek shares that John’s year-long sabbatical to play in some of the biggest amateur events in America is one of the “pieces of the puzzle” that inspired him to improve his game and start this podcast. John talks about the joys and challenges of managing golf operations at one of the world’s most iconic courses, and relays a story about how someone else’s delusion helped him qualify for his first US Amateur.


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